Why smart people are unhappy
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After I wrote the wildly popular post Why Smart People Fail, I received several interesting responses, some in the comments section and others privately through the contact form on this website. One example was the comment that presented two very valid questions, one of which was “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you happy?” Later, I asked a coworker of mine to read the article and tell me what she thought about it. Ultimately, she felt it was lacking. It was lacking something to her because she is familiar with the periodic unhappiness that I feel while at my work, in my cubicle, my hell, my dungeon.
In what I felt was a sarcastic question, she referenced my mention of the phrase “when in Rome, do as the Romans do” and asked, “so how’s that working out for you?” Ouch. My response ultimately was, “actually, I’d say pretty well.” I went on to illustrate the many successes I have had at my work and in my life. I told her how, while in Rome, and while doing as the Romans do, I was building up my resources and kicking some Roman ass. We eventually embarked on an e-mail exchange that maintained the “Roman” theme, an analogy I found so useful then, that I’ll use it here too.The analogy goes something like this: smart people fail because they forget they are in Rome. In order to succeed, they have to come to grips with where they’re at. The “Romans” in this analogy are all the many “common” people that surround the smart people. So are smart people, acting as Romans so they can succeed like Romans, happy? Not always and here’s why:
They are extremely bored
Smart people in a Roman world are more than likely only practicing a fraction of their talents. The things Romans do are really quite simple: work, play, sleep, eat, poop. Wake up and repeat. And for Romans, these are fun! But, as I said in the other article, smart people are puzzle-solvers. They like a challenge. They get bored when they are not challenged, and because the vast majority of careers out there are “production based” (do task a, then task b, etc.), their jobs are quickly mastered by smart people and are only challenging during that learning phase. After they learn the job they’re in, they’re done. Out. Finished. Bored. In the Roman world though, under normal circumstances, once a Roman job is learned, that means it’s time for a promotion. The problem is that the Roman world operates much more slowly than smart peoples’ learning capacity. There is often a very long delay between when a smart person learns the Roman job and when he can advance to the next, more challenging job. During that delay, smart people are left wandering around bored out of their minds.
They feel stuck
A lot of smart people out there in the Roman world are only in the Roman world because they need to eat. In other words, they need the frickin’ money. So, they work away, day in and day out and after a long enough period of time, it occurs to them that they might never get to leave. They make just enough money to survive and the slow pace of promotion gives them the dawning sensation that they might end up doing the same thing they are now every day until they die. With prospects like that, it’s no wonder smart people can be unhappy.
They comprehend the futility of their situations
This one’s my personal favorite. Smart people have greater comprehension skills. They tend to connect the dots both better and more into the future than typical Romans do. For a smart person, doing the same thing each and every day just so they can get a paycheck, just so they can buy some stuff eventually seems almost laughable. Live to work to live. What? That’s it? Scary. But ask a Roman about it and they’ll smile with satisfaction and naively say, “Yep, that’s what we Romans do!” Smart people though, just aren’t wired that way. They’re problem solvers not problem-perpetuaters. They like to fix things not keep them broken.
They are lonely
A lot of smart people look around them and only see Romans. Because they don’t have enough in common with the Romans to really enjoy the gladiator fights and Christian sacrifices going on at the local coliseum, they end up being loners half the time. Their down time is spent either begrudgingly in the presence of tolerable Romans or simply in the absence of anyone at all.
They have no exit strategy
They miss their fatherland. They work in Rome so they can eat but cannot leave. So smart people wander around the streets of Rome pretending to be Roman but because they don’t have many options, they stay in Rome forever, unhappily. They let themselves become Roman. They spend just enough time in their Roman labors that they never figure out an escape route.
The optimistic answer to all of these
Good god man! Get out of Rome! Or at least, as a starting point, figure out once and for all that the reason you’re not very happy, is because you’re simply not a Roman. If doing all the things that makes everyone else around you feel peachy-keen makes you feel sick all the time, it’s probably a good indication that you’re just not genetically a freakin’ Roman. Find some things to do outside of your Roman duties that are challenging and stimulating, recognize that the Roman way is the futile way, plan your escape and find some friends. It’s ok to walk around the Romans and secretly know deep down “I’m just not like you.” You don’t have to be like your coworkers, you just have to act like it for a while. Then once you find what you really love, pack your bags and leave.
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Yeah! werk sux because I am too smart!
Lucky for me, I can watch Oprah at work so I can connect with other smartlings…
Thank you for putting into words how I feel all the time.
I’m also lazy, but that pretty much sums it up. I stopped socializing with people a few years ago, I just never had anything to contribute to any of the conversations. I didn’t care about what they were talking about. Now I spend a lot of time wondering why I continue to exist. I don’t believe in god, heaven, or hell, so why not just kill myself?
This is really awesome. Like Ryan said, I have felt like this for a long time.
I have abnormally large ankles.
3. Geoff
You need Rumsfield poetry.
The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.
Discover the unknowns.
5. Mel. So what? Health problems? See a doctor.
Sometimes I go without wearing pants just to shake things up a bit.
Geoff: The reason you want to kill yourself is because you have no purpose in life. That’s a hard one to get out from under.
The thing is, ultimately EVERYTHING is futile, because you’re just going to die in the end anyway, and everything wonderful you and your fellow humans did will now be useless to you.
And so, knowing that the Grand Prize is a load of bullshit, you can either cash out to avoid the pain of disappointment, or opt for the boobie prize: Live new experiences.
The boobie prize is not constructive in the traditional sense, but doing new things helps give you a new perspective. That perspective can lead to a challenge, which can lead to a passion, which is fulfilling for the time that you are passionate about it (remember: nothing is permanent).
Have you ever walked through the farmlands in Laos? They’re really quite beautiful, and the people are friendly, and drink this nasty alcohol that puts hair on your chest so thick you flog yourself to death when the wind blows.
Trust me: though the ultimate purpose doesn’t exist, you can carve out a purpose of your own. You just have to get off your ass and do something un-Roman.
WOW! There are a lot of smart people checking out this blog. Do you folks know that in reality, you’re probably just totally average - just like me? Truly smart people march to the beat of their own drummer. Truly smart people do not sit in cubicles working for other people while thinking about how “smart” they are. Truly smart people do not reply with stupid comments to stupid blogs. Face it. You are average - just like me. Live with it.
Thanks for articulating the realities many of us face.
The social withdrawal aspects are particularly nasty as the isolation it produces is both a salvation and a curse. The very people I would love to hook-up with are probably holed-up somewhere like I am, doing their best to insulate themselves from the vapid and disingenuous social nightmare that surrounds us.
Average Joe: I’d hardly call an IQ of 140 “average”.
Wolter: Ahahaha, an IQ of 140 is more common than you think.
You can’t really claim alienation based on a supposed measure of intelligence until you’re in the ‘genius’ range, which 140 sure ain’t.
Really? I certainly feel alienated.
I certainly can’t live on the same level as the rest of my coworkers. All they’re interested in is sports, who’s fucking who, the price of gas, and some superficial tidbits about the political race (mostly to do with the awful things one side said about the other).
You can’t hold a conversation with those kinds of people about quantum physics, Nietzsche, geopolitics, astronomy, or any other cool stuff.
Mention that Socrates and Plato were not great thinkers, but rather misguided idealists, and you are rewarded with a blank stare.
You cannot bond successfully with others unless you can reach a common ground, and common ground there ain’t.
BTW, common != average
Wage slavery fucking sucks.
I wrote this about it 2 years ago:
http://technutnews.com/2006/08/10/shorter-4-6-hour-workdays-would-benefit-us-all/
As a successful person and member of Mensa with a 173 IQ…I relate completely with this article. I should also add that an IQ score by no means measures how smart a person is, or has any bearing on their current performance level. The old saying “You can lead a horse to water” applies.
BTW…average IQ is 118, not 140…140 is considered gifted and only 6% of all tested ranked this high. Hence 140 is not common, it is exceptional.
> You can’t hold a conversation with those kinds of people about quantum physics, Nietzsche, geopolitics, astronomy, or any other cool stuff.
Mention that Socrates and Plato were not great thinkers, but rather misguided idealists, and you are rewarded with a blank stare.
You cannot bond successfully with others unless you can reach a common ground, and common ground there ain’t.
I’d say your problem isn’t one of intelligence, it’s one of humility.
I understand what Dereck and many of the comm enters are expressing - let me add my name to the list of people who find it difficult to carry on the kind of mindless inane conversations that many people have BUT I completely disagree with the focus of many of these comments and even the post itself.
In my opinion “Successful people do what unsuccessful people don’t do.” Sounds stupid I know but I believe it with all of my heart. You may be born “smart” - you may be born with a high iq or an exceptional emotional intelligence or some incredible gift that makes it easy for you to do something that everyone finds difficult. That in and of itself doesn’t make you a success. Of course we all agree on this.
My concern is (I don’t know any of you people so why am I concerned) that what is being proposed here is a world view that says “I am special (Why? Because I feel special and I am ’smart’) and the rest of the world are a bunch of idiots. I can’t wait to escape these idiots.”
The problem is unless you are all planning on establishing some utopian ’smart people’ colony somewhere you are always going to be surrounded by “those people.” Do you really mean to tell me that with all your intelligence you can’t figure out a way do enjoy yourself with “those people?”
At the end of the day you are not the sum of your words or thoughts - you are the sum of your deeds. If you steal stuff - you are a thief. If you have extra-marital affairs - you are an adulterer. If you succeed - you are sucessful and if you live your life like everyone else - you are average just like them.
Sure, some people have abilities others don’t have but at the end of the day we don’t consider the dead poor, mensa-level iq alcoholic bum on the street a success and the lower-than-average iq schmuck who worked his ass of and amassed a fortune a bum.
I was VERY encouraged by the first couple of posts I read here - I thought “wow, someone who can clearly articulate the struggles that anyone who is determined to be a success has.” and that is exactly what posts like the “Shut up and listen” post focussed on: the fact that YOU are your own worst enemy in your quest to succeed. Unfortunately it seems to be turning down the road that says “you poor smart, talented person - you are so persecuted in this world. those ignorant fools out there. one day you can leave them all behind. in the meantime be miserable and try to make yourself feel better by increasing the amount that you hate and despise those stupid normal people.”
I hope I am wrong - I hope this blog ends up taking the road it started down first.
oh and by the way - smart people are unhappy for the same reason stupid people are unhappy: because they CHOOSE to be.
If you disagree with that statement than you just endorsed a world view where you have no control over your own life or emotions and are at the mercy of whatever powers govern the universe. good luck with that - I’ll be over here working on deter ming my way to happiness
@ veritas - I am still composing a reply to your e-mail. Expect it by the weekend at the latest… Hang in there
The issue is not one of creating some utopian society (as if such a thing were even possible), nor is it a sense of powerlessness.
It is rather an extreme frustration at having to work with apes that *just* *don’t* *get it*, no matter how many times you explain, no matter how much they’re screwing the whole thing up, no matter how much pain they’re causing for everyone down the road.
You can see *quite clearly* that they’re doing it way wrong, and yet nobody understands you when you explain why, even when you demonstrate the better way.
Have a look at the movie “Idiocracy” for a demonstration of this.
If you lived in a colony of retards (say, IQ 60-70), how much would you enjoy going out with them for some fun? Sure, you CAN enjoy yourself, but it does get tedious after awhile, and you will find yourself wishing for someone who can talk about movies TV sitcoms and the hockey pool and gossip that goes beyond “hehe… him dum dum!”
Now slide that scale up a bit, and you have a similar situation (though likely not as extreme), where the things the other people do simply don’t interest you enough to do day-in, day-out. And most of the things that you find interesting and stimulating are beyond them.
Of course, the solution is to find more people like yourself. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the maximum IQ spread before you simply don’t connect is around 20 or so, but I can’t for the life of me find the publication.
Being surrounded at all times by people you can’t connect with is basically a form of isolation. Is it any wonder that it breeds unhappiness?
Wolter: Judging “smarts” by IQ is like judging a book by its cover. An IQ is nothing but a litmus. The last IQ test I took I scored a 138, so WOW, you’re 2 points smarter than me! WHOO HOO for you! But the questions are mundane questions that you’ve been taught to remember. They’re never questions that truly challenge your inner workings. As far as I’m concerned, IQ tests are written by other “smarties” who think they’re smarter than they really are. Drop 10 city-slickers in the middle of the wilderness and see who survives the longest. That’s a much better test than a silly IQ that only determines if you’ve remembered how to calculate the volume of a cone.
Joe, I’m not talking about IQ; I’m talking about intelligence, and used IQ as a marker of intelligence differential because everyone understands it to be an indicator of cognitive ability, whether that assessment be correct or not.
Regardless of IQ’s ability to actually measure intelligence, the central theme to my earlier statement remains, and you are simply muddying the water with irrelevant arguments.
Wolter -
again I struggle between two positions here because on one hand I know exactly what you are describing. I know what it is like to feel frustrated and isolated because the fact that - for whatever reason - you are able to see to the root of a matter naturally leads you to prioritize and value things differently.
At the same time I think much of what is being debated in this thread is not actually debatable because we are mixing a couple of very different goals in our discussion. Part of this discussion is talking about being successful, living and achieving, being challenged by what you do. Another part of this conversation is aimed at being happy and enjoying life.
These are two very, very different things at times. Yes, it is possible to enjoy what you do, challenge yourself, meet your potential AND be happy and enjoy life. Unfortunately most of us have nothing but poor examples on either opposite extreme: on one the individual who throws themself into work and achievement but sacrifices happiness along the way and then, 20 years later looks back and realizes that nothign they accomplished actually meant anything because it was never enough and in the process they missed out on the love of friends and family and other lasting activities.
On the other hand you have the vast majority of the population who sacrifices their talents and abilities and trades them in for the security of a 3% a year cost of living adjustment. Never challenging themselves they try best they can to enjoy their family - they constantly grasp at objects - new cars, boats, tvs - to make themselves feel better and then 20 years later they look back and realize that they wussed out. that they could have accomplished so much more but because of their fear they refused to take the chances necessary.
Every day of my life is a struggle to reject either extreme. I want to have my cake and eat it to - I want to continue to enjoy the love and happiness my family brings me while living a life that reflects an undying determination to find and hopefully surpass my potential.
But that’s just it. The battle is against MYSELF not other people. How many times have I failed and taken the easier path because I was lazy or afraid of failing? How many times have I wasted my talents and abilities? How dare I look at anyone else and think to myself “man i am so much better than that ape of a human being. what a bafoon, man i am glad i am intelligent enough to see that the things that make him happy or stupid, vain, empty, meaningless things.”
We are all nothing more than the sum of our actions. Saying that we are more intelligent that “those apes” or waiving around results from some test means absolutely nothing until it is backed by an action.
The world owes us nothing - we can huddle together and roll our eyes at the idiocy of the masses if we like but it won’t get us one step closer to achieving our own potential.
Dereck -
appreciate it - I don’t ever want anything I am expressing to come across as though I feel you owe me or anyone else any kind of explanation. This is your space to express your thoughts and if those expressions do not match the things that I am striving to do it is my responsibility to move on - not yours to change.
All the same - I appreciate you taking the time to thoughtfully reply.
Interesting subject. No time to think about it enough right now but will come around again and see where it goes. Thanks for sharing Bing.
I can certainly empathise with this article and a lot of the comments. I’ll just contribute my own thoughts, not trying to tell anyone else how they should think.
I was touched by the message about how everything is pointless because nothing is permanent. Intellectually, one can easily work that out. But also intellectually, one can work out that intellect is not the sum total of human existence. We non-Romans are still human beings, just ones who think much faster and with greater intuitive depth.
I guess this is me redefining the word “success” as predicted in the first article about failure. But since we’re here experiencing life, the life we experience is the perspective from which we assess the myriad goals we are told we should want to aspire to by vulgar society. In that respect, of course “we” are going to have different goals and seem to fail when viewed through the popular lens.
I think there is a good case to be made for eradicating this concept of “should”. We impose it upon ourselves and it leads to feelings of guilt and inadequacy since extreme intelligence is often accompanied by extreme self-doubt. I am my own harshest critic by far.
Before this gets too long, however, I’d like to zip to the one thing I really wanted to say.
I do believe in God and the continuation of life after death. Not for any lightweight reasons either. I was an out-and-out skeptic and cynic for many years and this desperate sense of unfairness at a universe that creates me, makes me aware I am going to die and then kills me off with my memory and awareness dissipating into the eternal void really took hold and turned me into a bit of a pain in the proverbial.
Then my father died and I fell unemployed from my stimulating but badly-paid teaching job. I determined to work out the meaning of life by putting all my panicky energy into this quest full-time. I thought that the very least I could do in this life was to give the ultimate question a stab. A really serious and dedicated stab.
I spent 18 months obsessing and using my preternatural concentration to assimilate as much info as I could and let it bubble away in my subconscious which deals with more inspirational thoughts that are not necessarily all mapped out entirely rationally. Creative thinking, as it were. Is creativity a valid template for appraising the experience of life? Yes of course since everything I experience is filtered through my own consciousness and therefore everything exists inside my own head.
And what I found was that the more I read about quantum physics the less solid and externally independent the world around me became. Everything became relative, interdependent and even insubstantial. There was also the crossover from this advanced theorising into less celebrated disciplines like parapsychological studies. But all they turned out to be was people researching effects of the mind. Seemed valid enough to me as long as they had a rigourous methodology. And the good ones do.
This all seemed fascinating and a good use of my “downtime” (though of course I would argue that there is nothing more worthy of spending time on than working out why we exist), and the answers regularly danced tantalisingly close to the tip of my tongue. I began to dream of these questions and continue thinking about them whilst asleep.
Then one day something happened, the right circumstances came together, I heard one thought on the radio about what existence is about and that began an unfolding of the whole thing in my mind. Parapsychologists call is an Out of Body Experience.
And as sure and as rationally as I am sitting here typing, my consciousness did indeed leave my body. And my questioning mind continued to analyse everything during the process. That was what convicned me it was real. I was not being led along a story like a dream and I didn’t fall asleep and then start lucid dreaming. This was: awake-oh look at that swirly pattern in the sky, that can’t be real-oh I understand about that part of existence now-wow I’m rising out my chair and passing through my ceiling…etc.
(Extremely) long story short, I met other awarenesses whilst I was out and talked to them, then felt this “at oneness” with the whole universe. I saw the sheer scale of it all. There is no way to do any of that justice here, poets and artists for all human history have been trying to encapsulate what this inner sense of magnificence is, where it comes from and what it means to us scraping an existence on this planet.
It sounds a bit weird I know, but well I was so sure everything was mundane and solid and rational and boring and pointless, I guess only something like that was ever going to change my mind.
Most of you will no doubt conclude that I refused to accept the reality of the impermanence of life and in my trauma invented a trip in my mind out of some kind of psychosis to reassure me that life and learning go on for all eternity, well beyond one human lifetime. You may indeed be right, that is one plausible explanation.
But all I would say to bring this back to the realm of some sort of verifiability is that if you really delve into QM and the reputable parapsychologists who perform proper studies at university then there really is a valid and rational case to argue that things we now consider to be superstition and impossible are simply natural functions of this universal system we only rarely come across.
The key is the state of mind. And the only way to be convinced is to try and see for yourself. I think this is a very laudable interest intelligent people can research in tandem with whatever more Romanesque pursuit they have to play along with to survive in this material world. I certainly have found nothing more worthy of my attention.
Hope some of this was useful or at least interesting.
Hope and Love
Happy Tree :o)
A lot of people are commenting on how they think their IQ is too high for everyone else. IQ is relative. Maybe their social IQ is a low 80.
“Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know”
– Ernest Hemingway
Life can be substantially different as based in a matter of perspective. Find passion in life, whether its in something current or move along to something else.
The only problem with this is that discovery in and of itself ends up becoming the passion…
Still searching.
Just a quick note on IQ.
As far as I am aware, there are actually multiple standards for determining IQ.
Depending on the standard, an IQ of 140 in the USA may not be the same as the 140 IQ of some in the EU as each standard has a different mean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ
I think it is valid to think that people writing the comments to this blog mean generally smart people, both intellectually and socially, when talking about high IQ and not numbercrunchers who can’t dress themselves.
No wonder, a cubicle job.. that has got to be one of the worst options out there.
Anyway, if you are smart, you may have figured out how come with 5000 in the account, you still “cannot afford” a night out costing €70. Ie its all about income, not liquidity.
Thus you should end up with some rather nice savings, as roman spending habits just dont matter.. brittney spears cd? Bah, ill get bach for a tenth the price and 20 times better!
Liquidity is only spent on large scale goods, not every day spending.
Savings ultimately allow for a simpler life, once a home is owned, you can cut costs significantly. Same with travel, be that a 10yo car, buspass or bicycle. Theres plenty of nice lil simple recipies out there, giving highly nutritious food (sole purpose to eat). Funny thing is, best foods rarely cost more than €2/day.
This ultimately allows for a significantly lower income, and thus less slavery to rome. Heck, start flipping burgers on weekends as a offtime job, working say another day or two in the office or with something else granting perhaps another €500 -> €1000/month.
You could be surprised at the number of misplaced geniuses at McD
Which brings us to the center of it all, yourself. Yes, a lot more time with your own miserable you. If you cannot stand yourself, you are best of as a roman. But if you can.. well, one lil trick ive discovered: grow muscles. No not like a overgrown ahnold, just rock hard all over, bulging a bit here and there.
Then start sweating, and eating your daily 1,5g of protein per kg of bodymass.
http://hundredpushups.com/ is a good start.
That will improve your life greatly. A healthy mind can only dwell in a healthy body. Think about that
As for life being pointless, really..
) is fun, and even better when the both of you are toned and fit. Better yet, you can be blessed with a little one.. to whom you can teach all kinds of things, play with etc.
The ultimate aim for any organism is to perpetuate itself. Sex, ive heard (
Then give him or her a sibling
Since ultimately down history, noone cares if you had a big house or lots of money.. even whether or not you had read 2000 books, what does matter is offspring. Surviving ones, that is.
Oh yes, and then we have the definition of the free man.. from rome and beyond: Owning a horse and a weapon. Horse obviously is any way to travel (pretty much = car), and weapon is a gun in these days.
With freedom and health, and a stable if humble income and the little ones. Oh and all the time to enjoy this, and voila, you are free of the roman lifestyle.
They pretty much will resent you for this, think you are insane of whatever. You should be above all that.
Finally, a list of prequisite characteristics needed to develop your inner self, taken from dear Herr Steiner:
* Control over one’s own thinking
* Control over one’s will
* Composure
* Positivity
* Impartiality
Two first demands a rejection of THEIR values. Next, is coming to peace with yourself. Impartiality comes from understanding the pointlessness of lies and the first two.. questioning and rejecting the imposed roman values. Positivity, well, being healthy helps as does redirecting your expectations of life. Perhaps a bit of a childs mind helps, view life from a little childs point of view sometimes
And perhaps you can rediscover life. Maybe.
Oh yeah.. and dont watch tv ever again. Its so full of lies, brainwashing (no matter how aware you are, it seeps thru), case in point: “motherfucker”, should be a awfully outrageously rude word.. but you likely dont mind as much as say with the in real terms less obnoxious, “I smear myself in dog shit and eat it too!”, why? You have been conditioned that way.
as for average or not iq, remember that a lot of tests pander to the egoes of wannabe smarts. Ive found tests where the result need to be divided by 1,2 or 1,4 even.
One test did give a accurate one, and lots of people mortally hurt with their iq 89 results, having imagined their whole lives they had an iq of 115.
Sorry, no link.
This i believe is the sole accurate test on a test, see if you can by answering in a stupid fashion get below 80. If you cannot, the test is fatally flawed.
The lowest should be 30-40, by answering everything wrong.
That said, tests have handed me everything from 128 to 189.
Oh and the occasional 70-105 (bah!), when ive tested the tests.
Equality, or the notion thereof, is the worst bane out there.
Have a look at what the declaration really says tho
Few if any sites on the net carry it, you have to go there in person to read.. to realize how much you have been lied to.
Thank you for writing the article.
@ Vero - You’re welcome…
If you’re truly intelligent, you’re never bored. You realize that “happiness” isn’t a constant but moments.
If you’re truly intelligent, you know how to have fun.
If you’re truly intelligent, you do good works.
If you’re truly intelligent, you see wonder all around you.
What would you say to a smart person who has given up, devotes all their time to drinking and doesn’t know how to quit?
Smart people that are ‘creatives’ have few of the problems mentioned above. They are busy trying to stay alive by creating things from nothing.
Happiness, veritas and Teotw, you three have just given one reader some new reasons to try and carry on. Thank you! I was just about to give up myself.
Don’t you guys realize that the level of communication in this thread far exceeds that of places common people hang out, like youtube and myspace?
The quality of these comments does in fact show that everyone in here is above average intelligence, and you don’t need an IQ test or any other subjective test to show that.
What you’ve said is so true.
It’s interesting to see people like yourself recognizing this dynamic in this modern age, again. In the 1800s and early 1900s, such models like this were discussed by “the elite.” And you can see how this kind of proposition would really grate on the ears of 90% of people (those you call “romans”). They consider it to be simply a declaration by aristocrats that they are superior to the rest of folks. In that manner, “common” became a perjorative term; but it was not originally meant to be a derogatory term.
The thing is, that if deep thinking folks don’t see this truism which you laid out here clearly, they are going to be really foolish in how they approach life. One key point you mention here, is that moment when these thinkers realize that they would rather engage their minds than be working in a boring job. That means smart people tend to drop out of mainstream society; and they will even choose to live hand to mouth, just working enough to get by in whatever odd jobs they can find, to help them keep their head above water; they’ll try to get themselves on welfare, or on social security disability payments. Money is not the thing they are zealous about. They want their time for their own endeavors. Money and time are both resources which can be spent. And whereas most folks value the things they can spend their money on - deep thinkers profoundly value the things that they spend their time on.
There are some other things which cause smart people to often get dejected and unhappy. One interesting effect, is that even though they see themselves as living up to the highest standards - when it comes to how they converse, and how they act socially… the “Romans” actually more often than not scorn these smart people who are always talking in terms of outside-the-box perspectives and premises. We have to recognize this as well. Philosophical thinkers are scorned, because they part ways with the prevalent consensuses of their society in so many ways; they assess every issue from an independent perspective. One old story which provided an avenue to discuss and muse about this effect was Plato’s “allegory of the cave.”
One interesting effect which I wrote about last week on my weblog, is that it’s often the case that smart people will also be nurturing people. Because they have thought things through enough - they understand how social trends come into existence, and move and affect people in small and large groups; these folks will seek to focus almost entirely on encouraging these trends when they are around others. So, where we could divide the world up into “smart folks” and “Romans,” or “deep thinkers” and “shallow thinkers” - it might be more instructive to see the division between “nurturers” and “posturers.” I believe that smart people need to focus intently on hooking up with those who are nurturers. And indeed, I think that if you see a smart person who is expecially bitter - something is oddly incongruous in that situation, and one would be wise to give that situation some healthy berth, as you puzzle out what’s happening. Dedicating your life to consoling Eyeore is going to end up being just as vain a pursuit as working a dead end job.
The weblog post I wrote last week about posturers and nurturers is here.
And there is another very fascinating post I discovered on the same tangent about posturing and role playing, which was written by Dave Pollard.
So, I agree with you that smart people should “get out of Rome.” What that means, is that they have to build social networks with folks who do respect them, and their ideas… and who understand their rhythms of life, and who will forgive their weaknesses.
There’s a portuguese poet and writer called Fernando Pessoa, an intellectual himself, a writer something like the Shakespeare of the portuguese language. He was a very intelligent and tormented man, frequently depressed, who wrote once that knowledge and intelligence are traps that will void people from being truly happy. For him, happiness lies on simple things and people with intelligence will ever question simple things as they were not enough to fullfil happiness.
I always thoughted like that but as time passes I try to admire the simple things and see their trully value.
Hi there,
Read your article and was a bit uneased by it.
It’s not so much the “them” against “us”… it’s more about framing… Because I think you got it wrong.
“Romans” at the end of the day, gave what they had to give. Thus their satisfaction. “We” who have receive “more”… we have to give “more”. When we feel uneased by all this, it’s “simply” because we are not doing what we are meant to. Not in our place. Not doing what is “required” of us. Unhappy, simply because we are not giving as much as our internal measure asks us of.
Go out and shine!
“Get out of Rome!”
Get out of Rome??
If we are so smart then why don’t we? I’d like to see a smart person figure out what it is that you have to do so that you don’t end up having to “live to work to live”.
Unfortunately, the world is run by idiots, and the system they came up with is: you work to make money.
Even if you’re smart enough to see the stupidity of that, you still need to play.
You cannot get out of Rome. Rome is all there is!
This is how I feel every day, please tell me how to get out of Rome!
@ Liz - What do you love?
i always wondered why its so hard for me to keep a job like everyone else. i mean you go to work to pay for a house that you barely even live in because you’re always working to pay for it! then you die and others take your place, slaving away to dreams of happiness and success. life is just a pursuit of happiness… and i guess im just a little too slow for everyone else…
I just see bored people speaking about how smart they are. Sorry u’re just bored.
When I got out of high school I started working “mundane” jobs, and I hated it, i was very bored and was very unhappy. This was because the jobs I had to do were not a challenge for me. So you know what I did? I got off my lazy ass and went to college. Now I’m studying for a degree in a field that I do find interesting and challenging. So if your so tired with you job and so bored ans so miserable why don’t you make a change in your life. Go to college, earn a degree in an interesting and challenging subject. That’s what the happy and successful “smart” people do.
@ Derek - Like your name
Besides that though, you detect the futility of the mainstream efforts. The only response to that that I know of is to charge off and conquer more challenging things; to maximize your talents in pursuit of things worthy of your abilities because, as you’ve noticed, living to work to live, just doesn’t cut it for most of us. Good luck. You and I are allies, Sir.
@ mike - sniff.
@ Utarinsysi - You’re absolutely right here. Smart people must charge off and do challenging, more rewarding things. I commend your efforts and achievements.
An IQ of 140 merely says you can hold more information than some people can, which is probably why if you’ve got an IQ of 140 you understand things better because you can hold onto that information a lot easier. The average IQ of a human is around 100-115ish, and i know an IQ of 140 sounds very impressive given that information, but it means absolutely NOTHING if you dont use it. I’ve got an IQ of 147 but that doesnt make me any better than anyone else…
This whole thing is just ridiculous, i’m sure there are only a few people who dont really think about the future in any way at all and just live life without questioning anything at all…
so who’s the smartest?
This is all very interesting, obviously, but no one is going to give you the solution or answer you desire.
I challenge each of you bored clever people to achieve something that tests your intelligence before the week is out. I expect to hear about your results. Am i allowed to say a thing like that in one of these?
Point being, you all have thought looooong and hard about this for years. Time to ease up on the thinking and just do something, don’t you think. The world belongs to you. Decide upon the rules and start playing. Tick tock, it’s a gift that most defiantly expires.
@ smart dude - One of the most interesting things about this article is that I never mentioned IQ, but in the comments, IQ has been mentioned relentlessly. If we are talking about IQ, then it has a lot more to do about a lot of things than just how much information one can hold. That’s just the nature of a an IQ test.
However, you’re right about this: being smart means nothing unless you do something with it. Finding what that is that still retains significant meaning for smart people is the challenge that justifies happiness in a life where most things just don’t satisfy the challenges that smart peoples’ minds seem to demand, whether they know it or not.
@ nizzle - Who do you think?
@ Mark - You’re more than welcome to say anything you wish, which is why the comments are always unmoderated. I appreciate all input. And you’re right, no one can hand the magic solution to anyone. Least of all me, if that’s what you’re referring to. That said, my aim here was to ultimately inspire people to understand their surroundings and to do something about it. Which would seem to make our views compatible.
The best thing you’ve got here is this. It’s the golden rule for smart people:
And on the tick tock: that is the epic and fundamental instruction that should govern us all.
No not aimed at you, at all of us, though i certainly wouldn’t classify myself as particularly smart. Though i can spot inspiration when i read it. Thanks for the post.
your life is pointless on the grand scale, all that you have worked for today will be lost due to an event out of your control; suicide makes everything better. kill yourself.
First of all the average IQ is 100 because of the definition of IQ itself. It is a way to gauge how well you do on a test compared to others. Comparing IQ does not hold much weight unless you took the SAME test as another person. Furthermore most tests are not designed to gauge high IQ. Past 130 you need specialized tests for higher range IQ to have any accuracy. To the one who said an IQ of 140 is common - uh NO, no it is not.
To all the mensa folks - talking on end about some boring aspect of something you learned in school - is the same as them talking on about what they saw on TV. Nothing original just regurgitating facts to each other.
If you are really smart you should have figured out a way to be happy by now - most of you are in the work force already.
No matter what your IQ is, whether you are a ‘Roman’ or an idiot who thinks he is better than everyone else, the same thing is true: looking into the eyes of your child makes you realise the meaning of life and key to happiness, is NOTHING to do with intelligence. You are never bored when gazing at your baby fast asleep. Hardly intellectually taxing. Just bliss.
Liz
Judging by the way people drive, the average IQ is in single digits.
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Hi,
I think a lot of this discussion is about how to find meaning in life given that one sticks out a lot from the average in society. I like a suggestion for happiness I heard on TED.com:
“Find something more important than you and dedicate your life to it. ”
Now this takes humilty to accept, which doesnt naturally correlate with intelligence. One of the problems of being significantly smarter than most people around one is that one is, visibly, special and often has the marks of the outcast to prove it.
Outcasts are not usually very good at finding things more important than themselves and dedicating their lives to them…partly because “more important things” usually involve the majority of people in society, who, kind of by definition, are not part of their tribe!
So happiness depends in part on integrating into society which, for the very smart, consists for the greatest part of people who are less intelligent (and hence are tempting to think of as “inferior” at some level) than they are. So I see one of the key issues as: how does a smart person integrate and become part of a society mostly dumber than they are, while at the same time not loosing self-esteem as a result or denying who they are?
Just my 2c!
@ Anon - Right.
@ Ilia - Not sure I can agree on everything you’ve said here, accept the 100 mark as the IQ mean. Figuring out happiness is as much an obstacle to intelligent peop;e as it is for everyone else.
@ Liz - Are you calling me an idiot?
No one said intelligence had anything to do with happiness. In fact, my experience has been the opposite, at least at times. Happiness seems especially elusive whereas for most of the people I’ve met in life, it seems easier. I only wrote this to articulate the difficulties people like me can face.
@ Frank - This might be true
@ Bruce - I think you’ve said it perfectly. Finding something really worth one’s salt is the ultimate goal. And for smart people, they might have to go looking harder. Sometimes a lot harder.
Excellent piece - I think you capture and convey well the feelings of a significant portion of the population. And of course you have stirred a lot of controversy with your explicit grouping of ’smart’ ( reads defensively as ‘better’) and ‘not smart’. Anyone who perceives themself in the latter group will probably feel insulted. Veritas has some nice comments there.
I think there is basically one criterion for Success: create something good or destroy something bad.
(Btw, be Really careful about that second one.)
Here’s the Problem: you will probably not Succeed at a 9-5, at least not anytime soon.
That’s because a 9-5 not designed for Success, it’s designed for Stability. Decent income, minimal risk. And let’s face it, creation and destruction are risky! But with that risk comes greater potential reward. Wealth doesn’t just appear, it has to be created (natural resources being the blatant exception).
So if you want out, you need to plan for risk. That means saving of course, but it also means communicating your plans to those around you. Finding partners and supporters is every bit as important having the idea in the first place.
Just don’t fall into the trap of not engaging people because you don’t have one yet. Your brilliant idea will be a variation of someone else’s idea.
@ Lewis - Remarkable comment. I think you’re right on in all respects. The problem with the 9-5 ritual is stability and not necessarily creativity, growth and development. Kudos to you.
Also, thanks for the link from your blog. I’ve bookmarked it and will dig in with greater depth soon.
You guys seem to assume that all the dullards out there are happy. They are not happy. You walk alone past a group of laughing, goofy, social fools and you think to yourself “Lucky them, they have everything.”
You don’t know these people. You don’t know their private intimate thoughts. They may be slower or less insightful, but they have the same problems we clever folk do. They are, for the most part, uncomfortable and insecure. Just because for the hour that you see them they come off as happy doesn’t mean they don’t have their own personal torments.
To the idiots who said that life is basically pointless, you can’t prove that so stop asserting it. You don’t know, and neither do I, so let’s all just do our best and see what happens.
Good luck in your endeavours.
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The author of this article presumably thinks he’s very smart, but I thought it was kind of dumb specifically because there doesn’t seem to be any correlation with IQ and happiness in the studies that have actually looked at that.
What this article perhaps does suggest is a link between unhappiness and arrogance. If you spend your life with this sort of elitist view that classifies most of the population as little more than dullard zombies, no wonder you’re not very happy.
OTOH, I wouldn’t call that very samrt.
@ dude - Are all “dullards” happy? Hell no. We all know that. Can they find baseline satisfaction more easily? Hell yes. American Idol and Budweiser my man. But, for the people for whom this article resonated, those just don’t cut it. The main point is that happiness is elusive in special kinds of ways for self-identified smart people.
And sure, we don’t know the private thoughts of the average Joes. And within those private thoughts might lie all kinds of unhappiness that even TV and beer might not solve. But ask them what might make them happy. The answers I get are usually things I wouldn’t say would make me happy.
@ Brian - The author. You mean me? Do I think I’m smart? You bet. Arrogant? Take a break man. Relax. Only arrogant to you. Sorry.
Good article, thanks.
@ Mr A - Thank you
I can relate to what you are saying completely.
My solution is know thyself. Try to look for happiness every moment. Nature out there is great source of inspiration. What also helps is cultivation of some endless quest to mastery such as martial arts (my personal choice is Qi Gong). You get out of Rome b traveling inward, kind of, with some sharing of your energy ebullience to the Romans, and they will not be unhappy about that… As far as the limitations of human (’Roman’) activities go, it’s tricky… Just try to express your creativity wherever you can, I guess. Kepp your sense of humor!
I definitely enjoyed the article. It seems to me that the first half of the posted comments are from people who seek a smarter person to tell them what to do.
Just to share real quick… out of necessity, I got a corporate job and lucked out to get an office with a window (and not a cube!)–which I share with another individual. One chilly morning, I rode my bicycle to work and when my office mate asked how the ride was, I commented that it was invigorating. Bewildered, my office mate couldn’t grasp the meaning of the word, which I found a bit frustrating. Incidentally, the learning curve at the job was about a week for me. I’m quitting this Friday. I cannot continue the mindnumbing work as it is commensurate with accepting mediocrity.
It’s nice and comforting to read your article and to relate. It’s one thing to be smart or clever or possess a large lexicon with which you can dazzle “The Romans”(I love that as an analogy) or to apply yourself and become ’successful’, whatever the hell that is, but another to become ‘wise’.
I may be wrong, but I don’t think the modern WASP work ethic rewards ‘wise’.
if you were truly wise however, you wouldn’t care.
I’ll let you know if I ever make it myself!
Great articles! There was one thing left out though. The other vise of smart people versus “romans” is that they shut themselves out. The key to every day happiness is to loose the hangups and look for the charm in everybody.
I believe the core of the problem is being left out. Smart people are much more complex in thought. Not only do they think more elaborately, but they feel and see the world in a more complex nature. This being said, we are more apt to take all of these observations, future inklings, and events from the past that relate to an issue and apply them to our analysis. And if someone is being honest with themselves… the world isn’t all flowers and rainbows, and we see that. On the other hand, we also yearn for more and are satiated with less than the simple man’s world. We are the future; they are the now. We invent; they use what’s been invented… etc.
it helps just to hear some of my own thoughts and feelings mirrored by other people,i think its important to realise that some people that think like this can’t change things without the support of likeminded people,after all if we aren’t roman what are we? could we all be the greeks and if so shouldn’t we all be talking together in our own language with our own behaviours.
i would love to find a way to get word to more people and bring them together so that we could all gain from each other and not only find a way to be happy,but also to live upto our potentials,after all if anyone is going to make the world better,surely its us?
thank you for posting this,it was really nice and enlivening to read.
(i hope i didn’t stretch the roman/greek analogy,it was just too tempting)
In my opinion, Jim’s post is very insightful. To respond, I think the best way to accomplish was Jim stated is to organize our thoughts better. Perhaps Dereck can find a way to make this more of a thread-style, where responses and conversations can build off of specific replies.
@ Vis - Nicely put, especially with your take on nature and humor
@ Jon R - I feel for you on many levels. Learning curves that last one week are very telling. Hope you find something remarkable.
@ Neil - It’s nice to have readers who can relate. I hope you do let us know f you make it. Good luck to you.
@ Stephan - that is a great challenge indeed. Worthy of significant effort.
@ Jenna - I can definitely see where you’re coming from on the complexity side of the issue.
@ Jim - This is a fantastic addition to the analogy. It illuminates a fundamental problem that I’ve seen (don’t want to speak for everyone); just finding the right kinds of friends.
@ Jon R - I’ve got a forum installed, though only a few people have signed up for it in these first few months of this blog. If there’s enough interest, I’ll copy this entire thread over to it.
thank you Jon R and dereck i’m flattered you even noticed to be honest,i don’t normally comment on these things but this article really touched a nerve with me,in a good way obviously,I know what you mean about the friends Dereck but thats quite a good point in itself,i’m sure all of us on here have friends that we would consider very evolved or to at least have open minds and if we all have friends like us,then there must be so many more likeminded people to meet,i wish there was a place on the net where we could share ideas and start projects which would start out improving things for us,but i imagine would then snowball into more and more. the forum is a good idea and i will take my tired brain to the task of signing up for it.
thanks again you both made me feel cleverer than i deserve and thanks for writing the article in the first place its really good,i’m a fan
@ Jim - That my friend, is why I’m on the Internet in the first place
Hey, if you’re bored sometime: Check out the forum. Someday it should get pretty crowded. However, this blog is just a few months old so still has lots of room up.
Thanks for all the insight.
My way to happiness is to stop thinking that much, and start learning more. I think we create our own world, so the more mater we absorb, the bigger our world becomes.
Things you need on your path is:
1 good health
2 peace of mind
3 a labour of love of choice
3 freedom of fear and worries
4 a positive mental attitude
5 sex
The prices to pay for not fulfilling them is:
1 ill health
2 fear and worries
3 indecision and doubt
4 frustration and discouragement in live
5 blue balls
you need to form a clear picture in your mind of your absolute desire in live, and if you can’t, you got your answer. It’s to find that out, by all means and terms.
Who said it was going to be short and easy road. But be glad and happy, you finally got yourself an ultimate challenge worth of your own intellect. Remember to keep on looking forwards knowing that happiness lies behind you
two things i encourage is
1 leaving Rome
2 creating something good or destroy something bad. witch falls for me under a labour of love, i really want to try the hardcore way next time
grtzz
Just because you can’t find happiness doesn’t make you special.
I don’t mean that as an insult, I just get the inkling feeling like you’re convinced you’re part of a special, elitist club of people that are smarter than everyone else.
What about all the clever and smart people that can find happiness in the futility of everyday life? How come they can be happy and you can’t? Are you simply smarter and more creative than them?
What about those of us (like myself) that can easily acknowledge everything you’ve said in this article, yet still be happy? I don’t NAIVELY say “That’s what we Romans do!” For one, that implies that anyone who isn’t a part of your ‘club’ is naive, which is what makes you sound elitist. Secondly, it implies that it’s naive to accept things and just go with them, which just isn’t true.
@ corey
for me i don’t think we’re elitist cos we’re smart (i’m certainly not i’m a dyspraxic with an unimppressive IQ) i can see why you would think that though and maybe its just me,but the reason that i think makes us and kind of group isn’t our intelligence or any kind of superiority,its more becuase we are unhappy with what we see around us and in our own lives,which means we have more motivation to improve things,that to me is the most important thing and what binds us,not intelligence but a desire to see things better and to be better.
I don’t think it’s elitist at all. And I don’t think that all unhappy people are ’smart’ or that all ’smart’ people are unhappy.
I think the people that are most unhappy are those that have the tendancy to question everything. It just so happens that smarter people are more likely to question things. I don’t consider myself to be anything above average on the smart scale, but I am unhappy. And what makes me the most unhappy is thinking ‘what is the point’ to everything. And why. “why this” “why that” … Why are we here? Why is the universe here? Why do the things that exist exist in the first place? Is there a higher purpose and if not then what is the point?’
And this leads me into doing wreckless things with my own personal health and safety because I don’t see any harm in trying to prevent it. “What is the point?”
If we are merely a random string of dna then it’s not going to matter if you, I or anyone we know isn’t here. In 100, 1000, 10,000 years no one is going to be any the wiser. If the world suddenly didn’t exist tomorrow.. then no one would care. If the universe didn’t exist no one would care because there is no one around to care.
Which then of course makes me unhappy that I do things like that. It’s a vicious circle of apathy, feeling overwhelmed and alone, and self destruction.
Anyway. My theory is that having a certain way of thinking that leads to the tendancy to question your own existance is what leads to unhappiness and not necessarily intelligence itself.
(Also, just a thought.. it therefore would seem it is more likely that people who are not extremely religious are more likely to be unhappy as they are more likely to question their existance. A person who takes their religion very seriously would feel more secure in life if they ‘know’ that somewhere out there is a higher being taking care of things for them. Imagine it like a kid with a parent taking the responsibility. And I don’t mean that in a derrogatory way. I wish I could have unwavvering faith in something if I knew it would keep my head above the water. It’s by no means a bad thing. Just an observation.)
What do you reckon..?
On a completely different note..
All this debating between a lot of people has probably made some of us at least a little happier. The chance to put across your veiw and find likewise individuals.
Mass debating!
Who’d have thought something like that would make people happier!
Funny old world, eh’.
(p.s. yes there is a joke in there somewhere. Thought we could all do with cheering up. x)
@ ennio - You’ve got some great points here. I especially agree with your mentioning the need to form a clear picture of what it is you want in life.
@ Corey -
You’re being mean. This kind of attitude will get you nowhere, friend. It’s the kind of attitude I see in many places. It’s like when someone says, “Why should I help you, while there are people starving in Africa?” But the person asking the question is almost never off in Africa helping to feed people.
Who thinks we’re special? Apparently you do because you’ve associated the unhappiness discussed in the article with an elitism you do not feel party to. I’m sorry.
@ Jim - I agree. The elitism detected by others here doesn’t feel like elitism to me. To me it’s just a harmony among friends. Like guys gettin’ along while watching a football game. Just some harmony. Nothing more than that.
@ Stephy - You’ve hit on something crucial here with your bit on questioning. If critical thinking people start asking things like, “Why is this?” or “What does this mean?” or “Is this important?” then after a while they might have fewer things to rely on that have meaning for many other people, which is really what the article was after.
As to the religion question: Yes, something firm must replace the foundations that support the “everything’s ok” faith that comes from having faith. I know what that firm thing is. What do you reckon it could be?
Oh and, loved the joke
Haha i’m glad you liked the joke. I was worried I may ruin any credibility I may have gotton from my previous post. But apparently not. Thank you! x
It seems to me that smart by definition is having an abundance of knowledge. I think smart people who are happy know how to use this knowledge. This is wisdom. Smart people who are unhappy have an abundance of knowledge without knowing how to use it. It’s the same in the money game too. I have lots of money, but what do I do with it? Having it does not make one happy. Using it does.
Money or Knowledge.
@ AC - This is good, but calls to mind William James’ pragmatism. I prefer Descartes’ definition.
And I only say this because money has a character to it that invokes a certain fraudulence. But that’s just me.
ah yes, more knowledge. Knowledge from others with knowledge.
Alas, how does your preference gain wisdom for the rest of us?
I will learn more about Descartes definition. I may even understand it.
Money is fraudulent on more than certain levels usually, but then so is knowledge, unless we share it, not take it.
@ AC - That’s the problem. Hence the e-mail.
Define for me the specifics regarding “the rest of us” and I’ll likely tell you that we just snuck down into the rabbit’s hole.
For Descartes’ version, find the beginning paragraph of Discourse on the Method.
Lastly, I’ll end on this: knowledge that holds no fraudulence depends entirely upon the “whom” to which we are speaking; hence all the esotericism here.
That unfraudulent knowledge is the holy grail. At least for those who reside in the “specifics” I just referred to.
Cheers.
@ AC
now i don’t know descartes and im not incredibly well educated (which maybe just illustrates my point) but it seems to me you are confusing intelligence and knowledge on a basic level,they are two very seperate things that simply lend themselves well to each other.
@ Jim - I have to agree on a separation of knowledge and intelligence. And, just as you say, that they lend each other very important things.
My point of view is, that truly intelligent persons are always auto-didactive, and therefore upon there quest to find the answer to life, the universe, and everything, they should at least have heard about “Cogito ergo sum” (”I think, so I am”) and for rejecting Aristoteles philosophy and introducing a new rational approach.
Ps: the answer, it’s 42
OK, you’re starting to freak me out a little. Not two weeks ago I wrote most of these thoughts down in my notebook as the first part of trying to figure out what I need to do for the rest of my life. They’re right there as a stream-of-consciousness examination of, “What’s ‘wrong’ with me” and how to figure work-arounds. Common threads of some pretty diverse jobs I’ve had that I have liked, though, are becoming more evident. Anyhow, congratulations on not being a waste of bandwidth on teh Interwebs like about 95 percent of “bloggers” out there. Good on you.
After the week i have had this rings so true. I’m waiting on a promotion that should start this thursday but still not 100% convinced I will be in place on thursday morning due to various factors. Been working on it for 2 years and seriously questioning myself why I am so frustrated doing what I am currently doing, this puts it into a simple straight forward way of thinking.
Thanks for the post
Wayne
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@ ennio - 42
What’s interesting here is that I wonder how many people, smart or even otherwise, already are satisfied with the meaning of life. What then?
@ Jack - Interesting. What are your long-term goals? Finding the route to those events is always the tricky part.
@ Wayne - I know what you mean. The promotions are good, but is yours, as mine often are, means to other ends? Mine always have been, and because of that, they never feel as good as they could otherwise.
This post is a great too. I’ll have to read the next one now. Maybe you could add a link at the bottom of each to the next one in the series.
I’d also like to add that most of this seems to be work related, but from my experience it extends into personal life as well.
As you did say it’s hard to find non roman friends. I have a few, and I hang on to them for dear life. But what’s even harder is relationships.
I won’t go on about my personal experience there, except to say that it’s not easy, as a non roman, to find a girl who’s attractive, equally non roman, and actively looking to date, who hasn’t been snapped up already as the rarity she is.
@ Trav - I’ve been planning on adding a “related posts” section to this blog for a few weeks now. Good thinking; I think it would be useful.
As to this all being equally meaningful both in an out of the work place, I think you’re absolutely right. This discussion is applicable in many areas of life, whether school, home or otherwise.
As to the girl you’re talking about: There’s only one woman on the face of globe that meets this standard, and sorry, I already married her.
Ok, but really, they are out there. I hope you can find her…
@ derek:
Euhm yeah sure, those people are just called mentally depressed :-p
Firstly, I have enjoyed this post very, so thank you.
Secondly, I would only like to express an idea, i’m not even sure its my opinion, i hope thats not considered out of line.
The post correlates unhappiness with intelligence, while there is an obvious correlation they are not mutually exclusve, perhaps the reason “deeper thinkers” are inclined to unhappiness is because of their ability to think to love or want beyond happiness.
Perhaps what we can love or really want beyond “shallow thinkers” is not happiness itself, but the desire of happiness.
It seems to me that many commentators are confusing the idea of complacency with happiness. The idea that average individuals are happy is an erroneous one at best. Though some are happy with their current lifestyles, most are just complacent in living a bovine life.
Intellectually developed individuals are only one of the many types of people in the world. Just like for some the ideas of introspection, philosophy, and thinking are fascinating. There are others who are content with living within the constrains of daily life.
Both views are valid, and do not merit disparaging from either end.
Toleration is one important key factor to consider. For some intelligent individuals asceticism seems like the way of living. To others, more extroverted minds, a gregarious existence is far more enjoyable.
Life is full of variety, that is what makes it interesting, and thus we have to be versatile and convivial enough to appreciate every spectrum of it.
Remember that there are many types of intelligence. Accept that fact and you will start living a more placid existence.
Ultimately happiness is within our own psych. The idea that because one is intelligent and intellectually gifted a life of unhappiness is assured is not correct.
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i agree with ryan comment number 2. i’m actually quite astonished that another human being could feel exactly as i do every day of my life. and to put it all into words. excellent!! from what i’ve gathered reading your articles on smart people, i really just have to suck it up, and just learn to live in rome. i’m not a roman, nor will i ever be. but to be “successful” on this planet, i’m just going to have to pretend to be one.
@ Ennio - I’m laughing now because I was referring to me
@ “go for” - Interesting that you mention the possibility of a correlation. I was actually hoping to avoid a direct one. I don’t want to assume that smart people are unhappy, or to say that smart people are unhappy because they are smart, but rather, the smart people who are unhappy might be unhappy for at least some of these reasons. I’m glad you noticed.
@ Carlos - I like where you started your your comment. Complacency is not happiness, for normal folks, but, just as you’ve said, it might cause unhappiness in a smarter individual.
Ultimately, this could be key: smart people might mistake normal, complacent people as being happy, and then they might hate complacency and feel unhappy in a world where complacency is the norm. This opens up all kinds of new doors: Ditch happiness, and start by seeking a non-conforming attitude that abandons complacency and seeks achievement that is relevant and meaningful on a scale that corroborates with a smart person’s self-perception. The happiness might just catch up then.
Your respect for the variety of humanity impresses me deeply. It’s the variety that makes human history so damned worthwile.